Meet Shaena Jasmat! Me and Shaena met when I attended Shaena is Empowerment Coach working with women who are stuck in a self sabotaging cycle. She helps them to break free so they can live the want and deserve. The work she does is as a result of her own battles with alcohol, toxic relationships and no self-worth. She turned her life around by getting sober and healing her past and now helps other women to do the same. In this episode Shaena tells her personal story with alcohol, how she found sobriety, and describes the work she does today.
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Intro: Welcome to the "Sober Yoga Girl" podcast with Alex McRobs, international yoga teacher and sober coach. I broke up with booze for good in 2019. And now I'm here to help others do the same. You're not alone and a sober life can be fun and fulfilling. Let me show you how.
hello everyone welcome back to another episode of sober yoga girl i am very excited to have sheena with me here today and shayna is an empowerment coach from the uk and it's really wonderful to have you here so welcome sheena how are you i'm good thank you alex thank you for having me i'm excited to talk to you today thanks for being here i'm super happy you're here yeah me too i've been wanting to do this for a while and yeah ever since i heard no i had to be sober ladies on your podcast first and then you were on theirs not so long ago a few weeks ago now um and i was like oh my god i really want to god i really want to have well i'm so happy you're here good to be here and we just have a little chat and not a few weeks ago i didn't we did an instagram live for um yes yes your series yeah that was nice as well yeah i kind of lost momentum with that i went for seven days and then no one was signing up and then i i dropped the ball it was gonna be a daily thing and then seven days was long enough it's hard stuff like that isn't it you have really good intentions you know good ideas and i think it's okay for give things a go and if they don't work or they don't keep going that's all right it was still good while it happened but yeah totally i definitely think you know we have a habit of feeling really crap if things don't continue or don't keep going the way we'd hoped when actually it ran its course yeah exactly and it was great because it probably prompted us to then do this full-on podcast interview which is amazing so i was wondering if you could tell me a bit about yourself yeah so i grew up in the uk um my parents are both indian so they grew up in india i came to the uk in the 60s so me and my sister's all born here and we grew up here my parents are quite liberal for asian parents who weren't born in this country in comparison to other asian parents so we had a you know we got to do a lot of what we wanted when we were younger but there was still that element of stay in school do your homework you know we probably couldn't go out and play like when we get to our teens you know and some of my friends would still be out late at night we we were like you know get home and stay indoors and there was a little bit of strictness but nothing compared to other people so when i came around the age of 17 18 because obviously drinking age in the uk is 18 i was allowed to drink and my parents were more of the opinion of just be sensible about it you know you're allowed you're old enough we're not going to stop you just don't be an idiot you know and i wasn't i used to if i think back now i only really drank when i was um out with friends which actually wasn't that often because i was in college and i had a part-time job on a weekend which is very early on a saturday and sunday morning so the opportunity to be out all the time wasn't it was quite rare we went out to people's birthdays so i didn't think i was very um i didn't think i was responsible with it enjoyed myself and then went to university and you know usual student drinking culture yeah again nothing about the ordinary um so nothing i don't think anything really seemed to be any of any concern until i probably got into my mid-20s um and by which time i had moved away from my the city i lived in for university and i'd moved to a new place new job had a few friends around me but you know ultimately a whole new location and kind of fresh start and i i said this to somebody the other day i expected post university life in my new graduate job to be a little bit like friends in that i'd move into this like house or flat chair and meet new people and would be socializing i don't know i just pictured something really cool were actually it ended up being in a job that was okay i quite liked it but the people there weren't that social um sociable even and there were no after work drinks there was no going out for lunch and that just didn't really happen and it was just the nature of the work i was doing i guess and i did have a few friends around me in that city but they were all kind of in relationships and very committed to their careers and i was out there trying to meet new friends and make you know just i don't know have this young professional life and it didn't really happen that way and i found myself quite lonely i lived in the house of people i didn't know but people also had nothing in common with they weren't they were nice people but just you know we didn't hang out um i spent most of my time just setting my room and i think it was around about that time that i started to feel the loneliness was creeping in and the doubts of what am i doing like this isn't what i planned this is what i wasn't what i expected and everybody else in you know friends-wise seem to be doing all right they seem to be settling into their jobs they need to have a quite good time friends started to think about um you know they were moving in with their partners and stuff and i was just there in this house with people i didn't really remember it so much in the weekdays but i'm pretty sure it happened and then it crept and then the weekends are definite but the weekends obviously it wasn't evening it was i'd just start joining in the day but it wasn't anything i never got messy it was just that i started drinking because i was lonely and a bit sad and i think that really started to have an impact on my mental health and i took a bit of time out of work i didn't really know recognize what was going on with me i just there's something not quite right started to have a lot of them like digestion and stomach problems and at the time i didn't know that it was linked to my you know that well ultimately i was i was quite depressed didn't connect the two um so i was off because of the physical symptoms that were coming up whereas actually i was just really really low um and when i went back to that job i realized i wasn't happy and maybe i should move maybe i should try somewhere else my older sister lived in london and she said why didn't you why don't you move to london and i'd had quite a few friends move to london you know it's a new big it's it's london it's exciting it's uh how can you not have a good time there how can you not you know find excitement and adventure and all that kind of stuff so i moved moved in with her and her husband and i got a decent job it wasn't a job of my dreams basically i don't think at that point well yeah i didn't have a job of my dreams to think about then i didn't know what i wanted so i fell into something yeah that paid you know a decent amount of money but i'm not sure if it was the fact that i'd moved in with my sister that stopped me from meeting new people because i could have had a ready-made family almost to move in with that i didn't push myself to do i think what people would do if they move to new cities to go out meet new people right so ultimately i was lonely again but in a different way um and also i didn't really move for the right reasons so i wasn't gonna find what i was looking for especially when i didn't know what i was looking for and a few years of being in that and i was in london for a year and then it was after that i thought you know what i maybe i should go traveling which is really i felt at the time's quite a random thing to decide to do because a lot of my friends or a lot of people tended to do that straight out of university you know either before university or a gap year or after i went at 27 which is a little bit older than most people do it the whole backpacking thing um didn't bother me and it was that was the excitement at the time that i needed and was looking for i mean it's amazing i went to australia for a couple of months and then from there i did all of southeast asia and had the best time absolutely the best time i mean you're there now you just did something about asia that like dream like magical place um you fall in love with it and i did absolutely just yeah loved it but you know it was there's a time limit on things and i did have to come home and i came back just about the time that so it's 2008 it was when the recession started and i couldn't get a job when i moved back home so i kind of had gone from a period of not feeling that great a bit low to let's just go traveling let's just do something really exciting which was great and i came back to having to move back in like my home with my parents and be unemployed for quite a long time because i couldn't work i couldn't find a job so i was suddenly back
you know i was on a high and i dropped back very quickly down to earth to this reality of wow and now i'm at 28 i'm approaching 30 and even more like i felt like i'd taken a 50 steps back at this point and my sister also returned she was away at the time as well she returned not long after i did um she's a few years younger than me but i think similar situation that we both like what are we doing we're back home we're struggling to find jobs and i think we probably did a lot of drinking together again i wouldn't say that we saw it as problematic then i don't know if it was but we had each other so it didn't seem as bad because you just got somebody to you know go out with and or drink at home with right um but i was very adamant that when i hit 30 i just didn't want to be stuck there i needed a plan so we both agreed to move to australia um when i turned 30 and we did and it was amazing for wow you know for the well i say a short time i was there for three years um my sister had to move to new zealand because she couldn't get a visa to stay so you i mean you know what it's like yeah trying to get visas to stay in countries and um yeah she she did a year and they just the work she was in was all government-based so no sponsorship so she moved to new zealand which is great because she's still there and loves it and she's been there 10 years now so it's amazing um but i stayed i got sponsored in a job and i did start to fall into not fall i started to create what i thought was the thing i've been looking for i had a good set of friends had a decent job um and i met someone and everything seemed to be finally working out but really it was me forcing things maybe the person i was with was not the right person for me he didn't even really want to be in a relationship but i was getting to that point where like what is wrong with me and why does you know when you're just kind of wanting something to work and deep down you know it's not right so we weren't together even a year we split up and then it was a messy breakup still you know still trying to remain friends and the silly things that you do when you should make a clean break and you don't um a few months after he returned to the uk well northern ireland for christmas because that's where he was from belfast and i think he'd been gone a week when i found out how i was pregnant oh my goodness um and it was like whoa okay now what do i do and like what i hadn't mentioned to you is that this is although i've been searching and on this journey of like what where do i belong and where do i fit and why is nothing really working out for me you know ultimately all i wanted was to settle down and have a family yeah and now i'm 32 and the first time i'm presenting with the situation of this could possibly be it it wasn't how i've obviously expected it to be um i was scared i was on the other side of the world without any family with no real financial support i wouldn't have got any government support there because i wasn't a resident and he basically said i if you want to do this i will support you but i have to be honest and say that i think i will end up resenting you i'm the child of the baby and
i mean i didn't know what to do what do you do in that situation i think at the time i did what i thought the best thing was and i i did terminate the pregnancy because all i could think of this person doesn't want to be with me this person has just said he's been honest and said he would probably end up resenting me and knowing him for as long as i did he probably would have yet he's going to support me what kind of life is that to be stuck with a person who doesn't want to be in your life anymore and you're forced into it and that is not the situation i want to bring a child up in the hardest thing i've ever had to decide he wasn't there week before christmas and i spiraled after that i spiraled from a place of being quite sad because we'd broken up and it was a bit messy anyway too i've just done this awful thing and i couldn't i couldn't live with myself the drinking just got ridiculous out of control i was signed off work people didn't really know what to do with me friends were struggling to know what to say know how to help um
and i was just really really depressed and then basically because of the drinking drinking induced um suicidal thoughts because i just couldn't live with myself i was just like i can't believe i've done this so there were a few um times i ended up in hospital i hit a point of i can't live with myself and and at the time you know i can't i can't explain whether did i really really want to intentionally hurt myself or did i want to escape or did i want whatever was happening in my head to end it's a really
it's a really weird place to be in and it's a hard one to explain i don't you know i think everybody's different did i want to die or did i just not want to be there in that situation and then you get to a point where you don't see your way out is there any way i can explain it honestly for the next four or five months i just went in a cycle of trying to pull myself out of that but it kept hitting this it was just going round and round in circles because i wouldn't stop drinking eventually my parents like you need to come home we can't look after you while you're like thousands of miles away so i moved back to the uk and that was in itself i mean you know how stressful it is when you did it you've done it very recently you just decided right i'm going and obviously that was i'd like to think really exciting and we're doing this big adventure i'm just moving i remember i booked my flight home on the monday evening and on the friday of that same week the shipping company were picking my boxes up and on the saturday morning i flew home wow they're like six days well less than six days i know to pack up three years of my life which i couldn't pack everything up yeah my most was left behind so i came home and tried to heal and i think it started well um came home went to india with my parents which was amazing because um you know where where better to go and
be with your thoughts and heal and do things like yoga i went to i spent two weeks in it what they call a yoga hospital so rather than a retreat it was you had a doctor that met you on the first day and planned your treatment for the two weeks but my treatment it was all the holistic ayurvedic kind of massages and remedies and things like that and i had a specific diet i had to follow but that was all tailor-made for while you know the things i was um dealing with at the time um and included two yoga sessions a day and meditation and learning about all that stuff and it was amazing like just the best experience um so it helped it helped massively what i think i underestimated was how much needing how much healing i needed to do so when you come out or something like that you're feeling good and i just thought that was it so i spent a bit more time in india then i came back to the uk and i'm still feeling quite good so i throw myself back into life and i got a job and i tried to move on and move forward and the job i got was amazing brand new start new friendships new everything was great until it wasn't again and the reason it wasn't i think was because little things that were upsetting me bringing me down knocking me back a little bit we're just adding to all the things i hadn't really dealt with properly right so little things like get me in i got into another relationship which didn't work out those feelings of why don't you know not being good enough for people not being good enough and something wrong with me why can't i meet somebody who's just decent and what you know all about i was just like why why am i what am i doing wrong why is it not working for me because you know at this point i'm getting to my mid-30s and all my friends are like on child number two if not three and second house and barely you know all i can say is like oh i've got a good job and i've got a car which i know is not important i know but when everybody around you is doing things that society tells you you should be doing and you're not
it's quite hard and no one can relate to you and i think that's what i struggled with most is people couldn't relate to the times i did feel sad and did feel lonely and did feel a bit left out you know i remember trying to explain to people that when they go home and they say they've got no plans for the weekend they're no plans is still spending time with their partner and at home and maybe doing stuff from the house me having no plans the weekend meant that the only person i would sometimes speak to on a weekend was the person in the supermarket when i went food shopping but there's a there's a difference when you are completely by yourself yeah um and i think all of these things just i wasn't dealing with them i wasn't processing them i was just living in a bit of a god my life's really crap and when is it gonna get better but not really doing anything to make it better on top of that drinking a lot alone um and there were things that happened in the last before just before i got sober in the last three or four years prior to me deciding oh that's it it has to stop that pushed me over the edge a little bit and there again ending up in hospital getting to the point where i just did not see the point of my existence anymore i hated myself i just thought there was absolutely no point in being here this is going to sound ridiculous i ran away once like what adult runs away but i wanted to disappear i remember i got in my car and i just went wow i was a high risk missing person on the police like database because i i just got up and left i don't know what you know when you i didn't know what i was thinking or planning or what but i just
maybe i just needed some space or i don't know i can't even again it's something that's really hard to explain can't really really explain um and then it was february 2020 so just before lockdown and then just before it's you know we've been told it's a pandemic and not just the flu from china or whatever and i was at home my parents are in india they go every year to india of the winter so those the winter months were always the time i was by myself and i wasn't at my lowest but the drinking was still happening and i think i was just having a really bad weekend where i didn't want to speak to anyone didn't want to deal with anyone and my parents were trying to call because well they obviously now live in a life where they never know what's happened going on with me though they were always torn between they need to get on and live their life whilst always worrying about what i'm doing where my head's at so anytime i didn't answer the phone automatically they're gonna think what's going on so i think i probably just didn't answer the phone over the weekend a few times or kept messaging saying oh i'm busy i'll call later and then not calling and you know they're just getting like what is going on i'm sat there on a sunday afternoon watching tv i was drinking i wasn't wasted or anything but i was you know i was drinking and the door of not the front door i didn't even hear the front door the door of the room i was in just suddenly opens and it's um two of the neighbors from my street just in my house i'm like hi um my parents had freaked out and they called them and said please can you go around because one of them's got a key i said please can you go around and make sure she's okay i thought i was dead wow and i think it was a turning point for me because up until then it would only had only been really really close friends and my immediate family that knew how bad things got at times no one else was aware how bad it was so that really woke me up in that these people are your neighbors they've seen you grow up we moved into that house when i was seven and i was 39 when that happened so they've seen me literally grow up and now they're having to come and check on me it's a really like weird situation but it really shook me i think there was about a space of a week where i was sent i say sent to but yeah sent to go and stay with my auntie who lives just not far from here while i packed and my parents sorted out a flight to india and yeah february
february the 10th i left the uk to fly to india and i landed on the 11th and i it was i basically said to myself when you land that's it things have to change you will stop drinking you will stop smoking you will stop this whatever you're doing you will stop it and you need to change and that was the start of the sobriety journey wow what a journey that you've been on and thank you so much for being so vulnerable and sharing and at points when you told the story there like there were tears in my eyes and i had shivers because you've just overcome so much you know there's this this quote that you know people or they often say that you know the most beautiful people have like overcome it's like what have you overcome in your past for you to be that way you know and then and that's like the truth for you like from since i've met you you're just this bright beautiful light and and you've just been through so much to to become who you are today you'll know and people say all the time and it was hard and there were some horrible things that have happened and you know it's not until recently that i've started
doing the real healing and the real work that you realize you know that there was trauma there there was i didn't see it like that i didn't see especially um the pregnancy because it was a choice i thought i would call that trauma right it wasn't until a few years after that a therapist said the therapist said to me i don't think you grieved i'm like yeah but
am i allowed to like is that something like yeah you know yeah you just assume that you're not supposed to or that's not a thing because it was all very very messed up and it's like years of getting help i you know i did get therapy and lots of different amount of psychiatrists psychologists i've you know been through them all and i've got help and little bits of useful advice and support from every single one of them um it wasn't until my last therapist i thought he was the one that just felt i felt like he knew me better than i knew myself he was the one that really really helped me start turning a corner but um i think i did a lot of the work myself while i was in india i had time i had space i had very little you know i didn't have to be worried about job and finances and people i was taken away out of my normal everyday environment and put in an environment that is i think just perfect for the what i needed right and it allowed me to do
it wasn't just thinking i think i really genuinely went through the process of accepting a lot of what had happened forgiveness for forgiving others and obviously forgiving me massively not just for the obvious things but for
the guilt that i carried for putting my parents and my family my friends through so much pain so i had i had to forgive myself in order to move on and i realized that and i did a lot of that work then um but it's weird because i get when people say well how do you know what to do and i can't put my finger on it it's like it was just time and i instinctively just knew this is how now i move forward i have to accept it i have to forgive let it go and things just naturally it feels like things naturally just progressed from there and it makes it sound so simple and so easy and it i'm sure it wasn't like it's a bit of a blur now but at the time it felt natural and by the time i got back to the uk i did feel ready for right what do i do next steps and i remember going to see my old therapist i stayed in touch with him and i got back and i went to see him and i said this is where i'm at i'm actually feeling really good and we had a good chat and he said i think you are i don't think there's anything i can help you with now but i said to him i was like yeah but i i don't feel ready to completely go alone maybe you can't maybe you're not personality but i need something and it's at that point that i met my friend laura i'm calling my friend now but at that point she was somebody i contacted in her coaching capacity and she literally was the perfect you know just like i didn't really know what coaching was at that point yet somehow she just appeared in my kind of little you know world and funnily enough just happened to be i mean of all the coaches you meet online and find online she was she lived in the same town as me wow and there was just something that i thought yeah i need to work with her and we only worked together for a short time like a couple of months and in a transition from her being my coach to being a friend who now obviously when you've got coaching friends you know you can go to them and they will help you talk through things so she's just there she's just a friend now and it's amazing spent my birthday with her in september and but she is the one that instigated the coaching journey not that she pla it was a conversation that we had and i saw what she was doing i was like you know what laura i i think i'd like to do what you do i think i'd be good at this but i saw it as some kind of long-term goal that was years away in the future that's like you know surely it takes a long time to get to that point and she she tells me now she's like you you saw it so far away but i knew that it was actually around the corner but i didn't tell you that she said i you had to figure it out for yourself um but with her guidance so i kind of went on and did some i did an nlp training course as practitioner and a lot of the things i think i use my clients is is just from my own experiences and the fact that i've done the work i've been on the journey myself and i do yeah i've done i've done training i've done courses to kind of back all that up but a lot of it is from me just kind of coaching from what i know because i think that's one of the best places to coach from genuine experience rather than a book or a course absolutely
um and then that was about the time that i um came across be sober it's amazing so tell me about the work you do with them so initially i found them because i suddenly realized right i think i was about six months sober at that this point and i think lockdown in the uk was just coming to an end and they were gonna ease restrictions and i thought i know that my friends or at least people i thought were friends i'm not saying that they were bad people but people from my previous life should i say were not going to be good for me anymore and i needed to meet people on the same page so i started looking around and i found be sober and i noticed that they did um social events in manchester where they're based so i just said oh do you guys do anything like um near birmingham which is where i well just outside birmingham and they said we don't at the moment but what we're doing is actually looking for ambassadors to start their own events under the umbrella of be sober in their own area um would you like to apply to be an ambassador um i thought about it and i thought oh god i only wanted to kind of join these things i didn't want to a role but then i i thought about it and i thought i know me if i'd joined just as a member or just as somebody to attend events when i felt like it i would have stayed in the background i would have just probably shown a bit of interest but not really put myself out there right and then i thought you know what the ambassador role is giving me responsibility it keeps me connected with the soap community and it's probably what i need to do so i said right okay let's do it and the best decision i ever made absolutely the best decision i've made in that year i'm joined in august last year so just over a year now and the people that i've met the things i'm doing because of my journey with them the coaching journey has been going alongside it but i think me being the person who will now come on a podcast or go on an instagram live with somebody who hosts the drop in sessions with the community that has come from the confidence that these sobers brought out of me it's amazing they just helped me transform who i was i just can't like the things i will sometimes have in my calendar for the week and i have to like just go who is this person who is this person that is scheduling in things like you know instagram live with lisa and then alexander doing a podcast and then i've got it's just it's madness yeah it's incredible it's so incredible i put a post out just the other day when i kind of had one of these moments where i just sat back and go this is me now i thought oh my god like i'm genuinely proud of myself because i didn't think i had it in me and it was just this nice feeling oh yeah you did it and all that pain and suffering and all of that was yeah worth it maybe not the right kind of words but there was a reason for it all right because without without it this this trainer wouldn't exist right
it's incredible honestly it's such a amazing transformation that you've been on and when you think of like the be sober thing for example we wouldn't even know each other if it weren't for be sober right i came to one of your lounges and that's how we connected and here we are and so it's so true just putting yourself out there and taking leaps and risks and um joining these things like that's even something i'm really trying to take initiative now is like i'm so comfortable in my little community that i've built and i'm really trying to like step outside and that's where like you know me coming to be sober or i'm exploring other sober recovery communities and so yeah just like finding getting outside your comfort zone because amazing things come from it yeah 100 and that's it isn't it because but now i guess your community that you've created is your comfort zone so and for me be sober is has become mine and it's little things like there's somebody a friend of mine when i call her a friend now and she is somebody i connected with on instagram who's not in part be sober but she was holding a sober event a few months ago and we've been talking loads we just haven't met and i she invited me to this event and she said you know you're coming as my guest so don't worry about you know you don't need to get a ticket or anything you're my guest but that the fear that put in me to step out the be sober world and go to different and to meet people in person and people i hadn't met and it was so scary i mean and i did it and i'm so glad i did but even when you are you've done so much like so much i've done in the last year that stepped out my comfort zone that now has all been become comfortable and now it's like pushing again what's next what do we yeah what do we try now kind of thing yeah so yeah it's just it's just been our most amazing journey and i feel a bit like can i say does it sound a bit cheesy to say oh i've been on this great journey but genuinely you catch yourself and you end up smiling or just you get this feeling inside like oh my god this is this is my life now
and i love it and i think the best part is when i see people like you who same kind of journey and where you are now and i get excited because i know so much is still to come like i'm so early days in mine yeah how long are you once what i am uh 22 months so amazing so almost two years two years in february yeah it'll be two years in february um and i think you know coaching wise and be sober around the well you'd be so blessed every year and coaching for just under a year yeah so and it and that's a lot of different things i think all been happening you know at the same time so a lot been going on but it's all going in the right direction so yeah i love it and i have one more question for you so if you have any advice for someone who wants to quit drinking what advice would you give them
i always say and i always think that a lot of people make the mistake at the beginning of their journey if this is what they want to do is thinking that
stopping the drinking will be the hard part just stopping the drinking but actually what a lot of us discover is the drinking is just the symptom of yeah and underlying something or other and i'm not saying you've got deep dark root problems but you may not be aware that the reason you're drinking is something else and it's that what you need to address so yes get get a group of the the cravings and the triggers and all of that kind of stuff you know do the the reading of the quit lit listen to the podcast yeah amazing use all that kind of stuff that is out there now but be prepared to go deeper because you will have to go deeper if you if you need it to stick because i think what people do is they're like but i'm listening to the podcast and i'm reading the books and it's not working yet i'm like that that's not gonna get you so but that's gonna help and it's gonna make you feel like you're not alone and you're gonna find relatable content but you need to find you need to ask yourself request the big questions which are within you not on a not in a book not in a podcast you've got the answers to why you drink and how to stop so true so it's it's i think that makes it sound really scary but i think and i maybe this isn't for everybody maybe not everybody has to do that kind of digging around but i think i think more often than not there is a bigger thing underneath that you just need to address right well sheena thank you so much honestly i really appreciate you coming and being so vulnerable and open and sharing everything that you went through to get to who you are today and i think it's really going to resonate and inspire so many of the listeners so thank you so much for sharing oh no honestly thank you alex it's been so nice being on here with you thank you for having me and if there's anything coming up or anything you want to share with us about any coaching programs you have or any offerings the one thing i have got coming up is might be a bit short notice and it is it is based on where people are located in the world i've just got a workshop next week which is just about a bit of goal setting and intention setting for 2022. a really just fun kind of hour going through a few guided visualizations and stuff to make sure that everybody has the kind of year that they deserve so yeah if you i'm sure they'll be able to find me via your podcast and um yeah something that's coming up perfect and yeah i'll put all the links to um all of your information in the podcast episode if anyone can find you interested thank you all right thank you so much and i'm sure i will speak with you soon again bye bye
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